The ZGE documentation wiki at http://www.zgameeditor.org/ looks quite boring and the fastest way of making it more professional is to change the built-in theme. This is in preparation for new sections in the wiki such as "Video tutorials" where we can put the video that Kjell is making.
Please take a look at the many skins available and see if there is anyone you'd think could suit ZGE:
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/SkinsGallery
I think there are several that are pretty nice looking and they can be further customized by tweaking color settings etc.
Wiki skin/theme
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Hmm,
It all depends on what kind of direction the ZGE identity should take. Are there any games, websites, software that in your opinion resonate with what ZGE's visual style should be? Some examples ..
http://love2d.org ( Cute / Bubblegum )
http://www.processing.org ( Minimal / Tech )
http://shoooes.net ( Urban / Grunge )
K
It all depends on what kind of direction the ZGE identity should take. Are there any games, websites, software that in your opinion resonate with what ZGE's visual style should be? Some examples ..
http://love2d.org ( Cute / Bubblegum )
http://www.processing.org ( Minimal / Tech )
http://shoooes.net ( Urban / Grunge )
K
Yes that is a relevant discussion. For me personally I certainly favor the minimal/tech style of processing.org from the variations you suggest. Also I like to avoid a black background because I consider that to be a cliché for game-developer and hacker/demoscene sites. So not "underground" instead a more serious tone, possibly in a playful manner 
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hummm., yes there are loads of thoughts on design eh. I have no fav. of the templates there, so general;
- simple and clean is best, inho.
- fixed width stuff should be centered as we have now,. . some of these are not
Actually I do like what you have, I think it could be polished up a bit is all,. more organization,. things like catorgorizing the Component reference page,. and adding some screen shots and samples/examples into the component pages,. with more detail and explinations. I think this are more important and usefull to a face lift,. on the other hand perhaps a nice colour scheme could make it more recognizable as well,. . I will ponder and return.
here a a couple more samples to consider;
http://www.topmod3d.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manual
nice organized groupings of the info.
and http://www.topmod3d.org/wiki/index.php? ... d_Modeling
for nice use of images to spark recognision,.
http://buzzmachines.com/
a tad messy to look at,. but I really do like the idea of dynamic lists of new content,. we could have screen of the day,. new library functions, scripts, examples, etc. they are easy to find on the main page this way.
- simple and clean is best, inho.
- fixed width stuff should be centered as we have now,. . some of these are not
Actually I do like what you have, I think it could be polished up a bit is all,. more organization,. things like catorgorizing the Component reference page,. and adding some screen shots and samples/examples into the component pages,. with more detail and explinations. I think this are more important and usefull to a face lift,. on the other hand perhaps a nice colour scheme could make it more recognizable as well,. . I will ponder and return.
here a a couple more samples to consider;
http://www.topmod3d.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manual
nice organized groupings of the info.
and http://www.topmod3d.org/wiki/index.php? ... d_Modeling
for nice use of images to spark recognision,.
http://buzzmachines.com/
a tad messy to look at,. but I really do like the idea of dynamic lists of new content,. we could have screen of the day,. new library functions, scripts, examples, etc. they are easy to find on the main page this way.
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I'll try to eliminate some on a purely personal first look dislike, as if I "stumbleduponit".
No to :
a bit modern skin - wasted space, hard to read
Barthelme Skin - hard to read
Blix - looks like a blog
Blue Fur - here to make games - not blow bubbles
Bonny skin - hard to read
Black Sheep- "
Drop shadow - distracting
EvolverSkin - makes reading work
Glossy Hue - looks like a blog
Lines skin - contrived
MarbleSkin - contrived
Marinee - wasted space
ParchmentSkin - new - not old
PhotoGallery - huh?
RoseTrellis Skin - umm...
SimpleTab - newspaper?
Skittlish - no
SomethingCorporate - hard to read
StrippedSkin - just looks hard
Triad - I like borders
Useless Tuesday - photos behind make blind spots
WikiLove - no
No to :
a bit modern skin - wasted space, hard to read
Barthelme Skin - hard to read
Blix - looks like a blog
Blue Fur - here to make games - not blow bubbles
Bonny skin - hard to read
Black Sheep- "
Drop shadow - distracting
EvolverSkin - makes reading work
Glossy Hue - looks like a blog
Lines skin - contrived
MarbleSkin - contrived
Marinee - wasted space
ParchmentSkin - new - not old
PhotoGallery - huh?
RoseTrellis Skin - umm...
SimpleTab - newspaper?
Skittlish - no
SomethingCorporate - hard to read
StrippedSkin - just looks hard
Triad - I like borders
Useless Tuesday - photos behind make blind spots
WikiLove - no
"great expectations"
Did a little experimenting. I've uploaded the neat-skin and a function that lets you watch any page with another skin if you add "?skin=neat" at the end of the url.
http://www.zgameeditor.org/index.php?skin=neat
The menu is placed at the bottom of the screen which does not work well for ZGE. Apart from that I think it looks better than the current skin. I guess most of the skins have issues like this and needs to be tweaked before they are useful for our purposes.
http://www.zgameeditor.org/index.php?skin=neat
The menu is placed at the bottom of the screen which does not work well for ZGE. Apart from that I think it looks better than the current skin. I guess most of the skins have issues like this and needs to be tweaked before they are useful for our purposes.
Hi,
To let the menu float on the left with that skin you probably want to echo the menu before the content. But in case you just want to test, you could hack it in quick & dirty like this ..
- add "#wikitext {margin-left:180px}"
- add "position:absolute; top:180px;" to "#wiki-menu"
- remove "display:block;" from "#wiki-menu a"
I prefer the old skin though
K
To let the menu float on the left with that skin you probably want to echo the menu before the content. But in case you just want to test, you could hack it in quick & dirty like this ..
- add "#wikitext {margin-left:180px}"
- add "position:absolute; top:180px;" to "#wiki-menu"
- remove "display:block;" from "#wiki-menu a"
I prefer the old skin though
K
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yeah Ville that is sorta' nicer, . there are not many good ones posted eh. I was hacking around with my simpleTabs based setup,. added a macro photo gradiant;
http://www.iterationgames.com/pmwiki/pm ... -phyterNeo
I had not really looked too far into the setup, but it does seem sorta simple enouph to rework this stuff,. I have to move my site in the next few weeks,. looking for a new host any good deal ideas ?? When I do, I am considering a sorta rebuild of my site,. what ever I learn doing that I will be happy to share here. also looking at Drupal, Joomla, Plone, etc. then i saw this: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix drat! would take a year just to find what to try,. . PmWiki is working perhaps I will just stick with it..,
http://www.iterationgames.com/pmwiki/pm ... -phyterNeo
I had not really looked too far into the setup, but it does seem sorta simple enouph to rework this stuff,. I have to move my site in the next few weeks,. looking for a new host any good deal ideas ?? When I do, I am considering a sorta rebuild of my site,. what ever I learn doing that I will be happy to share here. also looking at Drupal, Joomla, Plone, etc. then i saw this: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix drat! would take a year just to find what to try,. . PmWiki is working perhaps I will just stick with it..,
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Hello,
Whatever you do, don't go with Joomla. Drupal is okay, never heard of Plone .. but building something ( yourself ) that suits you needs exactly is always the best option ( when you have the time ).
Finding good affordable hosting is a nightmare
Media Temple gives you decent value for money, I'm personally currently at Steadfast.
There are a bunch of free alternatives around ( that support PHP / MySQL ) that are supposedly okay, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.
Good luck ~
K
Whatever you do, don't go with Joomla. Drupal is okay, never heard of Plone .. but building something ( yourself ) that suits you needs exactly is always the best option ( when you have the time ).
Finding good affordable hosting is a nightmare
Media Temple gives you decent value for money, I'm personally currently at Steadfast.There are a bunch of free alternatives around ( that support PHP / MySQL ) that are supposedly okay, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.
Good luck ~
K